samedi 31 août 2013

Diplomat



In the Edward VI and Mary Tudor, the place where Henry Carey pop-up the most is in the foreign paper, though for the most part he still something of a secondary player (like always) though its something worth looking over, if only so that only people know (if any other people other than me are reading this).

our first one I' shall bring is from Edward VI foreign paper calendar at page 123 (sadly Henry doens't pop in his domestic paper at least during his reign). its  a tiny referefence of nothing, but I do find it interesting. It is about the 1551 Marquess of Northampton ( I think it is William Parr, brother of Catherine Parr) diplomatic expedition to France.  The reason of the expiediton was apparently to give the Henry II the order of the Garter. 

As you can see Henry pop-up on the list of the member of the expedition, what he did is unknown, but at least I think it gives us a small idea of his level of living at the time, which is definitively above the average to the point he has four servant, a rather comparable to most of the other guy, but unremarkable.

The other one more interesting as it seem the first time Elizabeth directly enter our story, this is in the foreign paper of spain.


It has been said here that the Duke of Savoy is coming hither to wed the Lady Elizabeth, and the nobility have intimated that they would be glad to see this match concluded, and the right to the succession confirmed in her and the Duke in case the Queen were to die without issue. And Elizabeth has sent abroad a cousin on her mother's side called Millord Quarre  to visit the Duke, and he has brought back a report so favourable that it has made the Duke popular with the nobility and awakened feelings of love and hope in the Lady Elizabeth. I have been spoken to on the subject, but have said nothing for the reasons your Majesty may conjecture.


A you may guess there wasn't much of an actual marriage. I sorta wonder how thing went down since its seen from the point of the view of Mary Tudor court and i can't help but think that the might have been some sort of double dealing going on, if we consider the opposing religious view of Mary and Elizabeth, but who know really, I'm probably wrong.

jeudi 29 août 2013

First born son



First born son and Berkely Castle
What to say about George Carey? Well I won't dwell too much on details today, because I believe some episode need to be looked up more precisely in themselves than in summary (and they are many years later in our story). He is the second lord of Hunsdon, yes, however he died . Apparently for venerial disease and the "cure" against it if wikipedia is to be believe and apparently his father did the same treatement  according to Weir.) He seem to follow the footsteps of his father for the most part, but don't seem quite to shine (though he did go to college apparently at the age of 13, a much younger age than his father who got his MA in art when he was 38 ). However, if there is one thing I found rather interesting is that he apparently was a pretender to Mary Queen of Scott, but it like I said before it is for later.
Most of them give his birthdate as circa 1547 , though the dictionnary of national biography gives you more precise one and place it even further down on 26 february 1548, citing Berkeley Castle muniments. (I think the connection between Berkeley Castle and the Carey is that his sole daughter ended up marrying a Berkeley)

Allow me to disgress but trying to find the reference for that date I've actually found something rather informative and who has reference to Henry Carey.
Here a few though on some entry

721. page 213 The thomas More definitively is not the more famous Thomas More at the time since his head and his neck already had been split by that time for many years, but it seem to be guy Henry put in charge of his land in Bukchighamshire (though I really think I'm misreading the entry). What weird is that the entry is dated from 1553 and Henry still 5 years away from being Lord Hunsdon. Then again it is a catalogue, so they probably added it in in order

737. Page 219 Well add another name to plug as this seem to be Sir William Cecil apparently secretary of state  at the time of the entry of 1552, I can't find anything about a College of St. Stephen in England

739. Page 220 Like a lot of the entry I can't quite make sense of it, something about gold.

754 and 756. Page 223 His appointement to sommert house, I already knew that. The other one not sure I understand.

762. Page 226 Henry Carey fighting pirate, fuck yeah!

775. Page 228 Deed of sale, but at least this time he's buying something

780. Page 229 Hum first time I heard of John Colyn being a ward of Henry Carey and George and so far my google search to lead to squat (there a chance other record spell it diffently). Although this ain't the only person who became George Carey ward as Henry Sanford was also apparently  one too (you can find him on the DNB)

784. Page 230 Hot mortgage action!

791. Page 232 The sequel!

796. Page 233 I already knew Henry Carey was the bodyguard of queen during the spanish armada episode.

799 & 800. Page 234 Another appointement, justice of the forest sound like a super hero name.

802. Page 235 Well...I guess its nice the sister get to join the brother...



805 & 809 page 236&237 More justice business



815 Page 238 Henry seem to have more ward than Batman! (ok its not a very high number, I admit), sorta suprise I haven't of any of those people so far.

78 Page 287 Well here Henry Carey Will apparently

162 page 302 Apparently there Henry getting sue to pay some debt

35 page 332 Some letter business, though the whole intrigue of the french ambassador sound kind of cool


Wow I really got sidetrack, but at least I got more material than I though...sorry George
 
Hey people, I'd really some feedback if possible, I don't even know if people other than spambot are reading this

mardi 27 août 2013

The inheritance.



The inheritance.
If we take it as the year he became major, 1547 would have been the year Henry Carey got in full control of the inheritance has his father, mother and grand-parent were dead (as well has his aunt and uncle). Though his mother had given some of the property to his stepfather, namely  the manor of Abinger and houses in Essex (weir, Mary Boleyn mistress of king page 250). Just four days prior her death she had came into control of the family estate of Rochford hall. I did find one reference to this estate getting in control on Henry Carey, only to sell it later, however I'm not sure I can vouch for the authenticity of this (Feet of Fines for Essex may shed some light of it, but it doesn't seem readily available online, at least not the volume I need). If it is to believe he eventually gave away that estate in favor of those west of London to Richard Rich (well that's one more wikipedia worthy name I can add)

though the bulk of it went to Henry with it being spread around Buckinghamshire, Essex, Hampshire and Wiltshire (source). Mind you as he we go along in the period between 1547 and the crowning he would lose some of these property as time went by. Heck despsite some of the jobs he had with crown our fella seem to be a little strap for liquidity in the coming years (he seem to be constantly selling properly and never acquiring new ones). Another Boleyn property Swavesey would be sold by him in 1549.  Even if it is his "home" seat, Henry will sell property in Buckhingham later in the 1550's. He also seem to been in some legal issue over an estate against some Pakington.

Sorry if it don't seem very structurate here, but I wasn't really able to find a concise list of Henry Carey real estate or what was given to him in any fashion.