Fleet Prison

Fleet prison       

Did you know Henry Carey actually was sent to prison at some point? Mind you don't imagine him as a harden criminal this is is essentially cause he was in debt over  under three obligations of 1551 for a debt of £507. He was sent sent to fleet prison in London who was essentially all about jailling debtor. The welcoming line  of this particular prison being Pray remember ye poor debtors.   History of parliament article on Henry Carey tell you he was release by may 19 for a debt contracted in 1551, though it don't give you much details  as to when he was actually jailled.  A bit more research on the website gave me this guy who seem to be related to this as his debt was share between him and several other people.   It seem that he was put in prison in august 1557, meaning he might have been there for about a year.

That would mean he spent almost a year in prison, though what I find particular is that apparently he apparently had since we can somewhat track him through the years he apparently was a carver of the privy chamber. If you wonder what it is. He apparently was a carver of the privy chamber up until Elizabeth accession. If you wonder what exactly what that entrail, that mean Henry Carey that mean he had to serve the king on bended knee during the meal (I'm pretty sure caver is meant to be a meat carver). While it may seem to like a demining job, I'm pretty sure that it would be considered somewhat  prestigious since you are doing it for the king (remember he is doing other thing at the time), but I'm pretty sure that he preferred when he had something else to do.

Diplomat

In the Edward VI and Mary Tudor, the place where Henry Carey pop-up the most is in the foreign paper, though for the most part he still something of a secondary player (like always) though its something worth looking over, if only so that only people know (if any other people other than me are reading this).

our first one I' shall bring is from Edward VI foreign paper calendar at page 123 (sadly Henry doens't pop in his domestic paper at least during his reign). its  a tiny referefence of nothing, but I do find it interesting. It is about the 1551 Marquess of Northampton ( I think it is William Parr, brother of Catherine Parr) diplomatic expedition to France.  The reason of the expiediton was apparently to give the Henry II the order of the Garter. 

As you can see Henry pop-up on the list of the member of the expedition, what he did is unknown, but at least I think it gives us a small idea of his level of living at the time, which is definitively above the average to the point he has four servant, a rather comparable to most of the other guy, but unremarkable.

The other one more interesting as it seem the first time Elizabeth directly enter our story, this is in the foreign paper of spain.

It has been said here that the Duke of Savoy is coming hither to wed the Lady Elizabeth, and the nobility have intimated that they would be glad to see this match concluded, and the right to the succession confirmed in her and the Duke in case the Queen were to die without issue. And Elizabeth has sent abroad a cousin on her mother's side called Millord Quarre  to visit the Duke, and he has brought back a report so favourable that it has made the Duke popular with the nobility and awakened feelings of love and hope in the Lady Elizabeth. I have been spoken to on the subject, but have said nothing for the reasons your Majesty may conjecture.

A you may guess there wasn't much of an actual marriage. I sorta wonder how thing went down since its seen from the point of the view of Mary Tudor court and i can't help but think that the might have been some sort of double dealing going on, if we consider the opposing religious view of Mary and Elizabeth, but who know really, I'm probably wrong.

First born son

First born son and Berkely Castle

What to say about George Carey? Well I won't dwell too much on details today, because I believe some episode need to be looked up more precisely in themselves than in summary (and they are many years later in our story). He is the second lord of Hunsdon, yes, however he died . Apparently for venerial disease and the "cure" against it if wikipedia is to be believe and apparently his father did the same treatement  according to Weir.) He seem to follow the footsteps of his father for the most part, but don't seem quite to shine (though he did go to college apparently at the age of 13, a much younger age than his father who got his MA in art when he was 38 ). However, if there is one thing I found rather interesting is that he apparently was a pretender to Mary Queen of Scott, but it like I said before it is for later.

Most of them give his birthdate as circa 1547 , though the dictionnary of national biography gives you more precise one and place it even further down on 26 february 1548, citing Berkeley Castle muniments. (I think the connection between Berkeley Castle and the Carey is that his sole daughter ended up marrying a Berkeley)

Allow me to disgress but trying to find the reference for that date I've actually found something rather informative and who has reference to Henry Carey.

Descriptive catalogue of the charters and muniments in the possession of Lord Fitzhardinge at Berkeley castle, (1892)

Here a few though on some entry

721. page 213 The thomas More definitively is not the more famous Thomas More at the time since his head and his neck already had been split by that time for many years, but it seem to be guy Henry put in charge of his land in Bukchighamshire (though I really think I'm misreading the entry). What weird is that the entry is dated from 1553 and Henry still 5 years away from being Lord Hunsdon. Then again it is a catalogue, so they probably added it in in order

737. Page 219 Well add another name to plug as this seem to be Sir William Cecil apparently secretary of state  at the time of the entry of 1552, I can't find anything about a College of St. Stephen in England

739. Page 220 Like a lot of the entry I can't quite make sense of it, something about gold.

754 and 756. Page 223 His appointement to sommert house, I already knew that. The other one not sure I understand.

762. Page 226 Henry Carey fighting pirate, fuck yeah!

775. Page 228 Deed of sale, but at least this time he's buying something

780. Page 229 Hum first time I heard of John Colyn being a ward of Henry Carey and George and so far my google search to lead to squat (there a chance other record spell it diffently). Although this ain't the only person who became George Carey ward as Henry Sanford was also apparently  one too (you can find him on the DNB)

784. Page 230 Hot mortgage action!

791. Page 232 The sequel!

796. Page 233 I already knew Henry Carey was the bodyguard of queen during the spanish armada episode.

799 & 800. Page 234 Another appointement, justice of the forest sound like a super hero name.

802. Page 235 Well...I guess its nice the sister get to join the brother...

805 & 809 page 236&237 More justice business

815 Page 238 Henry seem to have more ward than Batman! (ok its not a very high number, I admit), sorta suprise I haven't of any of those people so far.

78 Page 287 Well here Henry Carey Will apparently

162 page 302 Apparently there Henry getting sue to pay some debt

35 page 332 Some letter business, though the whole intrigue of the french ambassador sound kind of cool

Wow I really got sidetrack, but at least I got more material than I though...sorry George

 
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