vendredi 29 novembre 2013

New World Adventure



Well the closest Henry Carey ever got to my location is indirectly as he was a sponsor of Martin Frobisher expedition, mind you he wasn't exactly the most prestigieous or the main backer or main the one, but he is indeed listed among those that financed the expedition to find the north-west passage. I doubt he was particularly enthusiast on the matter as list tend to show that he still hasn't paid for his part (source), though he hardly was the only in the matter and his participation being minimal (source), too bad the guy was 500 years or so too early before the passage was cleared by global warming. I'm pretty sure Henry wouldn't have gotten there to save his life considering how cold it was.

mercredi 27 novembre 2013

The other valentine

A little interesting event that happen is in 1575. Remember Valentine Browne, the man was the treasurer of Berwick-Upon-Tweed, who happen to have the share the name with Henry Carey possible bastard son. Well he seem he got into trouble. The previous year, the soldiers started to complain (Source) and that the food was being crappy. Then again money was alway problem, but it seem that this time it was enough for the authority to take action against Valentine as he seem to be more or less accuse of embazllement and he ended up in the same prison Henry Carey had been sent to previously, though eventually release several month later he was.  The entry on Valentine Browne and Lord Hunsdon in the act of the privy matters will give you the details

lundi 25 novembre 2013

Think of the Children



So how about a little overview of  the carey children who they married

George Carey went to marry Elizabeth Spencer around 1574 and he suprisingly had only one child (suprising should you compare to his father)

John married Mary Hyde (amusingly wasn't Hyde park the property of his father) around 1576 and was a widow.

Henry Jr wife seem to be unknown, however  record show henry tried to get him married to one of the daughter of Lord Conyers (I suspect he was dead though he probably was dead and his title unocupied)

William was married off to Martha Turner , she said to be the daughter of Thomas Turner,  the only notable I've seen around that time with that name were MP, but that doesn't confirm anything.

Edmund was married three times once to Mary Cocker and a second time to a widow Elizabeth Danvers (né Neville) and a third time to Judith Humphrey

Robert as mentioned previously was married to Elizabeth Trevanion.

Katherine was of course married to Charles Howard

Margaret was married to Edward Hoby, the two never seem to have gotten any children despiste being married 23 years together (she died in 1605), but Edward illegitimate one, he also remarried afterward what weird is this. According to Tudorplace (who I admit not above making a mistake) is that apparently Edmund married the mother of Edward wife( apparently for political reason)

Philadelphia married Thomas Scope. who while she doesn't seem to have a portrait (Thomas apparently prefered to be with his mom) do have a momument.

samedi 23 novembre 2013

In Privy

So around 1577 was apointed to one of the highest office in the land 15 years after he was first recommend for it in 1562. I suppose that Elizabeth kept him away from it because she needed at Berwick. Anyway here a link to the act of the privy council.

jeudi 21 novembre 2013

Personality



 One has to be a bit careful when talking about the traits of character of an historical figure especially when centuries separate them. Heck it's a difficult thing to do in everyday life. Henry Carey being a secondary player in history also ended up making very little description of his behaviour compare to some. Although there is some that exist.  Recent edition of the queen elizabeth (which I swore were not online previously)  have extract of two text that give quite a good idea of how other perceived him (note). I had seen them previously in their original source, though it is a bit more convenient to have the put together. Also one thing I've seen him being a bit more vocal is in a letter to Lord Burghley (185), but the very notable part is that Henry demonstrate criticism of Elizabeth pretty much saying that her indecisiveness over the duke indecision was causing issue in fairly plain term to it midly (Calling her careless, to the point of not worrying for her own life and how full of consequence that be for kingdom if she bite the dust, I wouldn't be surprised if its Hunsdon was allowed more bluntness because of the family connection) since they seem to be something of a grudge over his son (not sure which) fell into disgrace with her and saying that (125) that she treated her enemies  better than her friend.

mardi 19 novembre 2013

Two little things



Here a little thing from 1575, in which apparently Sir Philip Sydney apparently heard two sons of Lord Hunsdon had died (page 122), this is of course wrong has him and and his two elder son were not anywhere around Ireland at that time. The note also mention that the events were in fact pure rumour. Also the other thing is the Thesis yet again (source) page 42 of the pdf and 38. Has it provide a good list of the Carey family involvement into the action of the border.