jeudi 15 août 2013

Anne Fragments



I wanted to try to find the location of Henry and Anne wedding by today, but so far my research as earned squat . The often mention possible location is Hengrave Hall, Suffolk, England, but there there is no real indication that is the case(it's not even particular close to the location Henry seem to be around usually).  However the often mention date of 21 may 1545 does seem to be right (I'll try to access ancestry.com at my local genealogical society, next week to see if I can find anything) at least according to page 4 of Allegations for marriage licences issued from the Faculty office of the Archbishop of Canterbury at London, 1543 to 1869. Frustratingly other issue seem to indicate the location sometime,but not this time.



Though one thing that I found eye catching is that on the license henry referred to as of the family of the lord the king. The wording does make me think it feel like there is a stronger connection than just being the cousin of his daughter, but then again without actually seeing the license.


Anyway my search I've recently dug two pieces of fact that took my attention. Both are from the Henry VIII Letter and paper . The first is from 1536 at entry 1187 of volume 10.
 

Personages appointed to attend on the lady Mary:—
Gentlewomen. Anne Morgan, Mrs. Finche, (fn. 3) Frances Jerningham, Elizabeth Sydney.
Chamberers: Systile (Cecil ?) Barnes, Lucretia the Tumbler.
Gentlemen Ushers and Waiters: Richard Wilbraham, Robt. Chichester, Sir Ric. Baldwin, Walter Bridges, Thos. Burrows.
Wardrobe of Robes: Thos. Palmer, Nic. Newes.
Footman: Chas. Morley.
Laundress: Deachryche (Beatrice) Ap Rice.
Woodbearer: John Layton.
Keeper of Greyhounds: Christopher Bradley.
The Stable: Thos. Jene, yeoman; Ric. Hogg, Nic. Twydall, and Thos. Crabtree, grooms.
P. 1. In a hand of the 17th century. Endd.: "Personages appointed to attend my lady Mary and my lady Elizabeth. (An old hand of that time.)"



and the second from January 1540 (volume 15 entry 110)


Pension list of Cokehill nunnery, Worc., appointed by the commissioners to take surrenders in Worcestershire, first payment at Lady Day next. 26 Jan. 31 Hen. VIII., viz.:—
Eliz. Hughes, prioress, 8l.; Anne Morgan, 56s. 8d.; Joan Belamy, Alice Wastle, Marg. Dyson, Anne Reve, and Elyn Owley, 53s. 3d. each. Signed: Robert Sowthwell: Ri. Gwent: John London: John ap Rice: Thomas Acton: John Scudamore: Robt. Burgoyn. Countersigned: Rychard Ryche.
P. 1.
 
 

I'll be the first to point out that is in no way a clear indication that this is our woman in both cases.  One particularly problematic thing is that in the 1536 entry.  The most mention year of birth for Henry future wife is 1529, which would make her around seven or six years old. Which make her rather young.


The second also raises question, because so far nothing would indicate that Anne Morgan ever was at Covent for any particular reason (and if you are wandering the place is called cook hill now). Sadly the place was entirely smash by Henry VIII, so I don't think there is a lot of hope of finding more archives wise.
 

If there is one thing that make me think perhaps it might be our good lady Morgan is that its that Mary Tudor was at Hunsdon (this include page 191 and 192 in the second book) House at the moment (which Henry would later possess) if we are to believe her correspondence along with the small Elizabeth, who in turn was getting raised  by Lady Troy, Anne Morgan grandmother. While this isn't any real evidence, I do think it make it more likely.


As for the other, well I the only particular reason, I could think it might be who we seek is that other than Worcestershire being relatively close to her own Herefordshire, it is now joined together (which would have been), though I think it almost make more sense if it was the other way around chronogically where Anne Morgan was first sent to a covent and later brough to her grand mother when it no longer became an option, but this isn't the case. So I'm more sceptical of the importance of the later bit from L&P as one relevant to our Anne Morgan, but again this is all unsure (It is a fairly common name remember).
 

Also Anne Morgan left a will available at the UK national archive though amusingly enough she's referred to as Anne Hunsdon.  Though by then Hunsdon was almost used as a family name by then.


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