samedi 17 août 2013

Letter, paper and Uncle





I know I may look like I am stalling here around 1545, but after my last perusing I couldn't help but check out check out Letter and paper of Henry VIII more for any reference to Henry Carey or Anne Morgan. While it may look like it simple, it's simply harder than it look if you don't physical copy of the book around. While some volume are on google reader a lot of them are not, same thing for archive.org and while british history online has all the volume, they often do not include an index include an index in the volume, which make research a lot harder. As you saw before a spelling is mostly made by the ears so (at least when it come the carey name) you can't just simply Ctrl+F the thing.

However with some dedication and effort, I've managed to uncover a few things of interest. Some I already knew from history of parliament (though its nice to have more confirmation on the matter), but most interestingly I found out about John Carey. He is the uncle of Henry I've first found about him in Volume 21 part 1 (the entry is from July 1546)


July.       1382. Documents signed by Stamp.
R. O.      Abridgment of bills, &c., which the King caused "me, William Clerc," to stamp at sundry times and places in July 38 Hen. VIII., in the presence of Sir Ant. Dennye.
                36. John Carye, esq., of the Privy Chamber, to have the rule of Kyndewarston hundred, Wilts, with issues from the decease of William Carie until the full age of Henry Carye, his son and heir, "without account or reckoning for the same." Pref. by Gate.
 


I'm surprise that the married, Henry who around 21 or 22 years old, still apparently not considered an adult. Though they  don't seem t be a legal age of majority by that point.

John Carey was the older brother William Carey and a courrier of Henry VIII (I'm mostly basing myself off wikipedia here and L&P , which I could find more source, but not much seem t have been written).  The man seem to have been  a rather dedicate servant of Henry VIII, but I will point out something else. If you look at the entry about John on wikipedia, it is said he died and was buried and while the entry I've show you seem to indicate he was more around Wiltshire in 1546. They are other entry that indicate a stronger Hunsdon connection.
 





John Cary, paymaster of Hunnesdon, 4l.



although to counterbalance this if you go back by a few time months he seem to be in Essex.


Volume 20 part 1



1081. Grants in June 1545,
                35. John Carye, the King's servant. Annuity of 20l. out of the manor of Sandoverhall, Essex, in the King's hands by the minority of John Tomworth, son and heir of Thos. Tomworth, dec.; with wardship and marriage of the heir. Grenewich, 14 June 37 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 16 June.—P.S. Pat. p. 2, m. 19.



If you keep going around you see him bouncing around the two place.



Volume May  1537 Volume 12 part 1


entry 1330


37. John Carey, a groom of the Privy Chamber. To be paymaster and overseer of the King's works of Hunesdon; with fees of 12d. a day, viz., 6d. a day for each office. Greenwich, 20 Apl. 28 Hen. VIII. Del. Westm., 12 May 29 Hen. VIII,—P.S. Pat., p. 5, m. 15.


Volume 10 June 1536 see him Essex yet again

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41. John Care, a groom of the Privy Chamber. Grant of the manor and site of the manor of Chilton Foulyat, Wilts; late in the tenure of Th. Care, deceased, father of the said John. Westm., 21 June 28 Hen. VIII. Del. 19 (fn. 22) June anno subscripto.—P.S. Pat. p. 1, m. 17.
 
Either it's not the same person or perhaps Hunsdon and Essex are close enough for him to allow some mobility, but I couldn't help but notice that it would be around the same time Anne Morgan seem to be serving Mary Tudor. (Though the year don't exactly match, the problem being that he in Essex in 1536 and while she at Hunsdon and it seem only that he is coming in next year). Mind you if there is indeed a connection between those entry, it could possibly mean that Henry and Anne knew each other at a young age (or perhaps that make the family connection that led to the family arranging the marriage), though the exact nature of thing still remain rather obscure.


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