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I sorta was intrigue by the relationship between Robert Dudley and Henry Carey as of late. Considering that one was a favourite (and potential marriage candidate for Elizabeth) and the other of her closest blood relative, sorta make you wonder. While I haven't found anything in particular that dwelled on in details about how the two men interacted, but like a lot of thing there is a certain amount of trace involved.

One in particular that initially made me believe of something positive between the two is the Robert Carey page on history of parlement, which indicate that Henry youngest son actually got his name from his godfather who happen to be the early of Leicester (source) also Henry and Robert knew each other since at least his time as carver, though Robert was above him in hiearchy.

Shakespeare professional career also seem to relate a somewhat stormier relationship between the two men, mainly cause by Henry envy toward Dudley preferential treatment. (Him being risen to the rank of earl which is something Henry seem to have desire quite a lot ), in 1564. There is also the matter that Lettice Knolly (future spouse of Dudley) is the niece of Henry, but I have yet to find anything that tell of Henry thoughts on the matter. The dictionnary of national biography also seem to put more rivalry and put him into something of a group that included lord Sussex and the earl of Dorset that tried to discredit him all they could (source).  More recent version though seem to describe their relationship as more friendly (Source). So I am incline to think the two had something of a complex relationship that went through cycle of friendliness and oppostion depending of their mutual position, though making a detailed timeline of how it went down seem hard.

oh forgot to put that the other day but there is one note relating to Lord Hunsdon troop from 1567 mainly how they were muscians under his order at page 120 here.

Look at the calendar

(sorry for bring this somewhat late, though to be fair it is still two days even we are about one hour before midnight :P )

So let us look at the mention of Henry Carey in the State Papers, Foreign; Calendar and comment a bit upon it. (it is only the very first volume of it, we sorta have a lot on our plate for theses volume)

Volume 1: entry 1330

I believe I've mention it before, but Henry Carey was in the attendance at Henri II funeral as "Mourner" apparently with a group of other member of the noblity and you can also see how much their black cloth and helmet and everything further down.  You can see more of it in the merchant-taylor at around 209-210 )  If there one thing I'm not too sure if those funeral apparently took place in London, which I would find odd considering its a french king.

I will also mention this, it much more easier to find the baron in here in record now, since there is no alternate spelling for Hunsdon and damn it feel good to be able to find info so simply.¸

Volume 2 : 472

The duke of Northfolk here would Thomas Howard, who had some family relation to his future son-law. I guess it only further confirm that Henry had growing experience into the matter of Scotland which further justify is future appointment. 

Volume 2 Footnote (twice even)

Again Greenwhich tournament. (Geez that must have been something seeing how people keep refering it)

Volume 3:  443

Apparently, Henry is graceful for the Garter though pleased the queen is well (sweet of him I guess)

Volume 3: 224.7

Not quite sure I understand the entry properly, though it seem that Henry having trouble getting a harness to the queen.

Volume 3. 263.6

If I get this properly Lord Hunsdon, sending silk to the queen (not sure again, it could be that Lord Hunsdon is sastified by the information given by the treasurer)

Volume 3. Footnote

Hey look apparently one letter actually written by our subject (Is it this the first time? I can't recall) and I think the first entry a letter from the queen to our dear Lord Hunsdon giving him instruction on what to do with the Swedish King.

Volume 3. 539

Don't really know what the instruction are here.

Volume 3. 627.3

You know me I always welcome reference to the wife of Henry Carey. the brought-a-bed would mean she's in the late state of pregnancy. Hard to say which child she giving birth here. Though a likely guest could be Robert Carey as his estimate birthdate given at around 1560

Volume 5.499

Off Dear hunting, no word if he killed anything himself though.

Volume 6. 1027

Volume 6. 1122

Sorta putting this in the same cause they are for the same event Katherine Carey, marriage to Charles Howard.

Letter of recommendation

First I will make a small addition about a previous topic, namely the Greenwich tournament. Would you like to know what our dear Baron Hunsdon wore that day? Well you actually can thank to The diary of Henry Machyn, a merchant tailor of the time.  They are severals mention of Carey in it, but its a bit hard to read since its all written phonetically and can be somewhat difficult to read, but at page 216-217 there is mention of tournament.  Oddly enough apparently both Robert Dudley and Henry Carey were considered the winning challengers and the good tailor mention they were wearing Black and white (Maybe there was a tie or they are competing together, I can't say) and the winning defender was Ambrose Dudley  was wearing Red and Yellow. I couldn't help but notice the colour the same as his personal armory, though Robert Dudley apparently was wearing the same.

Another minor note, but as Master of the Hawkes, the cecil paper indicated that on 5 march 1561 Hunsdon received a present of a Hawkes from the duke of Prussia meant for the queen  (source) and was paid 60 crowns for it.

(You may notice that there is a mention of Henry being appointed governor on Berwick on the same page, most source will tell you he won't get the post until a full 7 years later, I'll approach this sometime later)

Anyway onto something that was suppose to be our main topic today, namely that apparently the queen fell gravely sick in October of 1562 and Henry got recommend to the privy council because in case she died (source). What exactly does this mean?

The privy council was meant to be some sort advisory board for the queen, but also had administrative duty (I can't quite say what would happen to it had the queen bite the dust) and while Henry would eventually siege on it would be many years later around 1577. 

The source of the comment actually not quite from British source, but actually spanish one locate in england, though it is logged in the Calendar of state paper for spain at entry 190. So knowing what was actually going on the ground a bit tougher. From the look of it, the queen was grivieously sick from smallpox and seem to be trying to make provision in the event of her death. The most important being Robert Dudley has lord protector of the kingdom. Her recommending Henry was part of those contingency, but didn't manage to make it pass through. (amusingly if the entry is to be believe a groom working for Robert Dudley seem to be paid more on a yearly basis than what Elizabeth gave Henry on the same yearly basis)

Frustrating enough the acts of the privy council of that time seem to have holes in it and have no mention of Lord Hunsdon and himself only appear in the correspondence in 1564. Cecil note on the period mostly refer to millitary matters.

They are a few other reference to Lord Hunsdon in spanish calendar of state paper. Here those that precede our current state.

29 may 1559 entry 34 Henry was sent to meet an ambassador of the holy german empire, though no more words seem to be mention how it went down.

5 may 1561 128 Reference to Henry been given the order of the Garder, apparently it pisses people off as well.

March 1562 entry 153 apparently there is a meeting in Lancaster of protestant of importance for the purpose of brewing some sort of anti-catholic plot under the pretend. (Considering this is very second hand what went seem to be unknown) though funnily enough apparently Bishop Quadra think that everyone in that meeting but the duke of Northfolk an idiot.

Greenwich tournament

Well not only was I unable to find much about the tournament, but GTA V taking my time, luckily for your readers, Person of interest making me pause the game. So what about the Greenwich tournament, well it took place in November of 1559 and it wasn't just Henry Carey who won it, it was also Robert Carey. (here some source for clarification, its the most detail account I've found although I have yet to find something more direct that talk about it, I have seen the same terms used often but never the source)

One thing I've notice is that both Robert and Henry are considered winner, I'm not familiar with Jousting, but I've seen something mention about an offender and defender (I think it refer to how many spears you broke versus how many time you managed to get miss), meaning that perhaps two position can win, but that's just me and I'm probably wrong. Also there is an expression often mention to refer to" holding the list" I can't help but think that might help the two were holding their position from challengers, but how long it was the case, I have no idea.

Though they were apparently both considered victor, it safe to Robert Dudley the one that seem to have benefited the most from the tourney.

 

But yeah, take everything I say here with a grain of salt.