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samedi 26 octobre 2013

Second half



(First of all thank for the additional +1, those are always liked)
Well no point in doing the first half of the year without doing the second half later.
1329. You can sorta that Hundon actually defending the duke of Northfolk here (well that didn't help him a lot in the end), but clearly has little support for the idea of marrying to Mary Stuart. You can also instruction  

1330. Not quite sure that the Henry Carew refer to his our lord Hunsdon since I've seen Carew being use as a distinct family name several time.

Thing will go pretty dark for Henry up until the rebellion in November at 1405. Interesting it help up identify the second man who later join in with cecil to help him as Ralph Sadler .

326, I'm suprise that Mary stuart sent a letter doing some request at Hunsdon, but I guess  he made a good intermediary. Most of the other entry are not very interesting at least.Overall you can see what are effectively the main duties of Lord Hunsdon, Bandits, raids, maintaining Berwick and havig to deal with the disease and sorta having to deal with issues stemming from the queen of scotland.

jeudi 24 octobre 2013

Father of King..well sorta...not really



Ok sorry for that somewhat overly dramatic title, but today we are talking about plans to make the first born son of Henry Carey. While at first I thought it was only an idea that Francis Knollys had suggested for unclear reason (Personally, I think that he saw it as a win-win for everybody, but no one else wanted at the time). The idea actually resurface not so long after, but was suggested not by knollys but by William Cecil. 

I first saw the matter in french book. (source) around the 25th of september 1570, mention the plans suggest to Mary Stuart (though they got the name of George wrong). The french also had that should proven successful the future James I wouldn't get on the throne and that it pretty much mean a clear domination of England over Scotland. Though it seem it didn't go much further than some inner consideration on the matter and Mary herself was kept out of the dealing.

While it seem most book don't deal with this, Agnes Strickland dwelves considerably into both Knolly and Cecil plot starting at page 139-140, but dwelves further more at Chapter XI at page 1954 (Sorta funny how his own father never seem the initiator, but it is fairly in character). 

What amusing is that in the year prior George carey seem to have been involved in investigating the duke of Northfolk attempt to marry the Queen. (entry 467,477, 478) At page 155 of Agnes Strickland test, he apparently told Nortfolk about it before hunsdon and Mary Stuart. At page 159 you can see that she relate that apparently Mary would have not greatly dislike it. Though Elizabeth was very displease with the idea and Henry dismissing it because of his lack of clout.(I think its the first time I've seen a high level renaissance noble demonstrating any sort of humility)

So let us skip forward to the time of Cecil at page 267 where it said that due to the risk of her Marrying other European monarch, which made Elizabeth more open to it, but this time it was Mary that didn't want it.

Needless to say that the fact George spent his time going against the pro-mary rebellion probably made sure it wouldn't work (Plus you know the last guy who cheated on Mary didn't do so well, so you know)

vendredi 18 octobre 2013

Going down the 1568



A big important event that happened in Henry Carey is the northern uprising in 1569, but since I feel it would almost require more than one article I can't help but go through the early months or so that Henry went through before all that happen. I'm skipping on a lot fo thing.

The cecil paper are interesting enough because I've seen one reference in April of 1568 (entry 1171), where he seem he confered with the first Early of Moray. Which would be a somewhat earlier foray of into scottish affair by him (though It don't really seem to relate to his appointment at Berwick all that much).  

A rare apprerance by Anne Morgan here at 1210. 

The foreign papers gives a serie of instruction to Henry as soon as he appointed to the job. (2454 to 2458) and tell us of John Foster who will probably pop-into our story into the future. Supplies seem to be a pretty important thing for the job cause if you look at 2473-2474, it the first thing he talk is apparently him waitting for ammunition to be given to him (though its hardly like he don't need it) and apparently he felt the need to mention what he ate. Especially that 2481 he started asking the name of the scottish lord against Elizabeth and well the raids seem to be putting quite a strain on the ammo supplies (source, 2504).

At 2496 you'll him relate him a meeting between his son George (who would be about 21 by that time),  which interessting considering that some planned to marry the two. Though here he seem mostly being a proxy between his father and Mary Stuart.   Mary Stuart clearly being diplomatic with him on the matter of the raiding.
Well its kinda cool that Henry try to get a  pardon a man for apparently unjusticied accusation(2524) hopefully it was the right thing to do.

Ok I have to admit its really stupid but at 2534, it sorta can't help but imagine Knolly going to Berwick soley to criticise his brother in-law.  As for the fortication Hunsdon would say to the queen that he though the main wall was fine, but the town was disorganisne. (1211)(thugh they had some common ground as both of them were affected by the disease of the place and they were a pretty big problem on the marches)

Though in november Knolly would come up with the plan to mary George with Mary (2625),   with Henry being quite pissed about it and as he mention doing it out of his own initiative even though the boy wasn't his own. His interest in the matter was that he was in charge of Mary Stuart in her detention. I'd say Knolly plan male certain amount of sense, mainly securing that Mary stuart be tied to a protestant noble, the close ties between Carey family and Elizabeth line also help (as he mention in 2626), but also considering he'd be related to the king of the Scots probably wouldn't hurt him. (I'll try to write some around the scheme if possible though it doesn't seem to have gone further than that)

With all the talk of wall and how terrible the living condition are you'd think Hery Carey a guy in the Night Watch in game of throne. Mind you despiste the complaining he never seem to go want to leave. (it be hard to characterise him as a complaining since its pretty much a job that suck)

jeudi 26 septembre 2013

Governor



So like I mention in the Cecil paper you will find this reference dating from november 1561. At entry 840.


Has appointed Lord Hunsdon, Governor of Berwick. He is to proceed to take charge and government of Newcastle and the county of Northumberland under the Earl. Directs the Earl of Sussex to write to Sir John Foster, Warden of the Middle Marches towards Scotland, giving him instructions to join Lord Hunsdon. Hartlepool is to be safely kept. Has given order for a supply of munitions of war to be sent to him.


While eye brow raising is that most source will tell you that Henry Carey did indeed assume governorship of Berwick-upon-Tweed but he did so in 1568(I'm almost incline to think its a mistake, but really what are the odd that it is). What make it more difficult is that they don't quite seem to a proper list of the governor of Berwick-Upon-Tweed (or at least the one on wikipedia is pretty full of holes). So far the most convicing one seem to be from history of parliament and has you can see it doesn't mention him being governor in 1561. It goes from William 13th Lord Grey of Wilton to the 2nd Earl of Bedford (Francis, Russel, amusingly he is the son of John Russel, the man who apparently took Henry under his wings at some point).

Wiki mention that Lord Grey had retired of active command by 1561 (apparently from failling health , page 159 ) so I'm incline to think that he (like is son much later) were essentially place holder at Berwick until more official appointment came around.