Think of the Children

So how about a little overview of  the carey children who they married

George Carey went to marry Elizabeth Spencer around 1574 and he suprisingly had only one child (suprising should you compare to his father)

John married Mary Hyde (amusingly wasn't Hyde park the property of his father) around 1576 and was a widow.

Henry Jr wife seem to be unknown, however  record show henry tried to get him married to one of the daughter of Lord Conyers (I suspect he was dead though he probably was dead and his title unocupied)

William was married off to Martha Turner , she said to be the daughter of Thomas Turner,  the only notable I've seen around that time with that name were MP, but that doesn't confirm anything.

Edmund was married three times once to Mary Cocker and a second time to a widow Elizabeth Danvers (né Neville) and a third time to Judith Humphrey

Robert as mentioned previously was married to Elizabeth Trevanion.

Katherine was of course married to Charles Howard

Margaret was married to Edward Hoby, the two never seem to have gotten any children despiste being married 23 years together (she died in 1605), but Edward illegitimate one, he also remarried afterward what weird is this. According to Tudorplace (who I admit not above making a mistake) is that apparently Edmund married the mother of Edward wife( apparently for political reason)

Philadelphia married Thomas Scope. who while she doesn't seem to have a portrait (Thomas apparently prefered to be with his mom) do have a momument.

Father of King..well sorta...not really

Ok sorry for that somewhat overly dramatic title, but today we are talking about plans to make the first born son of Henry Carey. While at first I thought it was only an idea that Francis Knollys had suggested for unclear reason (Personally, I think that he saw it as a win-win for everybody, but no one else wanted at the time). The idea actually resurface not so long after, but was suggested not by knollys but by William Cecil. 

I first saw the matter in french book. (source) around the 25th of september 1570, mention the plans suggest to Mary Stuart (though they got the name of George wrong). The french also had that should proven successful the future James I wouldn't get on the throne and that it pretty much mean a clear domination of England over Scotland. Though it seem it didn't go much further than some inner consideration on the matter and Mary herself was kept out of the dealing.

While it seem most book don't deal with this, Agnes Strickland dwelves considerably into both Knolly and Cecil plot starting at page 139-140, but dwelves further more at Chapter XI at page 1954 (Sorta funny how his own father never seem the initiator, but it is fairly in character). 

What amusing is that in the year prior George carey seem to have been involved in investigating the duke of Northfolk attempt to marry the Queen. (entry 467,477, 478) At page 155 of Agnes Strickland test, he apparently told Nortfolk about it before hunsdon and Mary Stuart. At page 159 you can see that she relate that apparently Mary would have not greatly dislike it. Though Elizabeth was very displease with the idea and Henry dismissing it because of his lack of clout.(I think its the first time I've seen a high level renaissance noble demonstrating any sort of humility)

So let us skip forward to the time of Cecil at page 267 where it said that due to the risk of her Marrying other European monarch, which made Elizabeth more open to it, but this time it was Mary that didn't want it.

Needless to say that the fact George spent his time going against the pro-mary rebellion probably made sure it wouldn't work (Plus you know the last guy who cheated on Mary didn't do so well, so you know)

Mid-life crisis

Ok I know we technicallly went past the mid-life point in 1562, but 1566 is the point where he hit his forty. For some reason the year 1565 and 1566 seem to be completely hollow in term of particular event I could talk about. The best I got was that apparently his son Edward was matriculated of trinity college in 1566 (source, page 41-37 in the footnote). George, the elder actually got his degree before his father at age 13 in 1560 (source). I suspect they had the same speedy attribution than his father. 

I looked into the assassination attempt on Elizabeth, but most of them seem to have taken place when he was out in the North (i'd insert a joke about how once he's out of the picture all the assassins seem to rush in, but that's probably not very accurate).

But hey next time we can actually focus in on something very important, him being sent in the eastern marches for the next decade or so!

First born son

First born son and Berkely Castle

What to say about George Carey? Well I won't dwell too much on details today, because I believe some episode need to be looked up more precisely in themselves than in summary (and they are many years later in our story). He is the second lord of Hunsdon, yes, however he died . Apparently for venerial disease and the "cure" against it if wikipedia is to be believe and apparently his father did the same treatement  according to Weir.) He seem to follow the footsteps of his father for the most part, but don't seem quite to shine (though he did go to college apparently at the age of 13, a much younger age than his father who got his MA in art when he was 38 ). However, if there is one thing I found rather interesting is that he apparently was a pretender to Mary Queen of Scott, but it like I said before it is for later.

Most of them give his birthdate as circa 1547 , though the dictionnary of national biography gives you more precise one and place it even further down on 26 february 1548, citing Berkeley Castle muniments. (I think the connection between Berkeley Castle and the Carey is that his sole daughter ended up marrying a Berkeley)

Allow me to disgress but trying to find the reference for that date I've actually found something rather informative and who has reference to Henry Carey.

Descriptive catalogue of the charters and muniments in the possession of Lord Fitzhardinge at Berkeley castle, (1892)

Here a few though on some entry

721. page 213 The thomas More definitively is not the more famous Thomas More at the time since his head and his neck already had been split by that time for many years, but it seem to be guy Henry put in charge of his land in Bukchighamshire (though I really think I'm misreading the entry). What weird is that the entry is dated from 1553 and Henry still 5 years away from being Lord Hunsdon. Then again it is a catalogue, so they probably added it in in order

737. Page 219 Well add another name to plug as this seem to be Sir William Cecil apparently secretary of state  at the time of the entry of 1552, I can't find anything about a College of St. Stephen in England

739. Page 220 Like a lot of the entry I can't quite make sense of it, something about gold.

754 and 756. Page 223 His appointement to sommert house, I already knew that. The other one not sure I understand.

762. Page 226 Henry Carey fighting pirate, fuck yeah!

775. Page 228 Deed of sale, but at least this time he's buying something

780. Page 229 Hum first time I heard of John Colyn being a ward of Henry Carey and George and so far my google search to lead to squat (there a chance other record spell it diffently). Although this ain't the only person who became George Carey ward as Henry Sanford was also apparently  one too (you can find him on the DNB)

784. Page 230 Hot mortgage action!

791. Page 232 The sequel!

796. Page 233 I already knew Henry Carey was the bodyguard of queen during the spanish armada episode.

799 & 800. Page 234 Another appointement, justice of the forest sound like a super hero name.

802. Page 235 Well...I guess its nice the sister get to join the brother...

805 & 809 page 236&237 More justice business

815 Page 238 Henry seem to have more ward than Batman! (ok its not a very high number, I admit), sorta suprise I haven't of any of those people so far.

78 Page 287 Well here Henry Carey Will apparently

162 page 302 Apparently there Henry getting sue to pay some debt

35 page 332 Some letter business, though the whole intrigue of the french ambassador sound kind of cool

Wow I really got sidetrack, but at least I got more material than I though...sorry George

 
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