One of the few known things that Henry Carey took interest in was
actually Botany. It a bit hard to know just how much it was an interest in him,
there at least one description of those plant coming from the furtherst part of
the earth (source)
apparently even coming from south america (source),
though that's far impressive especially if you consider that its a time the
frontier is being redefined. He actually had patronized some work on medicinal
herb (source).
If I dare speculate I have the impression, that with the level of disease he
saw on the border, its not really suprising he did so, though it may just be
personal interest.
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jeudi 5 décembre 2013
dimanche 1 décembre 2013
On our way
lundi 25 novembre 2013
Think of the Children
So how about a little overview of
the carey children who they married
George Carey went to marry Elizabeth
Spencer around 1574 and he suprisingly had only one child (suprising should
you compare to his father)
John married Mary Hyde (amusingly wasn't Hyde park the property of his
father) around 1576 and was a widow.
Henry Jr wife seem to be unknown, however record show henry tried to get him married to
one of the daughter of Lord
Conyers (I suspect he was dead though he probably was dead and his title
unocupied)
William was married off to Martha
Turner , she said to be the daughter of Thomas Turner, the only notable I've seen around that time
with that name were MP, but that doesn't confirm anything.
Edmund was married three times once to Mary Cocker and a second time to
a widow Elizabeth Danvers (né Neville) and a third time to Judith Humphrey
Robert as mentioned previously was married to Elizabeth Trevanion.
Katherine was of course married to Charles
Howard
Margaret was married to Edward Hoby, the two never
seem to have gotten any children despiste being married 23 years together (she
died in 1605), but Edward illegitimate one, he also remarried afterward what
weird is this. According to Tudorplace (who I admit not above making a mistake)
is that apparently Edmund married the mother of Edward wife( apparently
for political reason)
Philadelphia married Thomas
Scope. who while she doesn't seem to have a portrait (Thomas apparently prefered to be with his mom) do have a momument.
dimanche 17 novembre 2013
a little thing about litteracy
Ok as you recall we had previously seen a mention on Henry Carey being
illerate. This is somewhat doubtful considering he has a certain level of correspondence
left over, but still it is possible he wasn't the one who wrote his letters.
Although at page 25 of the expansion of Elizabethan England I've notice
something particular (source)
apparently Lord Hunsdon was stricken by the gout and it made his handwriting quite shaky. I
think that may have explaineed why he was later assume to be illiterate.
vendredi 15 novembre 2013
That bastard Valentine
There's isn't much of an official date of birth for Valentine Carey, the
bishop of Exeter and presume illegitimate son of Henry Carey, but some account
put his birth around the time of Henry coming at Berwick-up-on-tweed (I wonder
if Lady Hunsdon was still around when that happen) with a completely unknown
woman. He doesn't seem to pop up until many year later around 1585 and most of
his highlight were made after the first lord Hunsdon death. There is some
speculation on the matter if he actually was a bastard or perhaps was actually
connected to a minor branch of the Carey family (though Notes
and queries, page205,* seem to be the only place I saw anything about that)
and so far most hint seem to indicate that he was. I saw one small thing in an
unrelated book about the then lord Hundson (who is one of Henry son) and
Valentine being refer to as Cousin,
though I think its a mistake by the author (lineage not really being the topic
of his book and it would be the kind of thing to easily get wrong), but also if
he is a cousin it can be a first degree one as Henry had no brother that would
cary the name. The problem is that there is effectively no way for sure
(Hunsdon clearly didn't count those in his official list), so let us stick to
the mainstream account).
His will actually seem to hint a bit more toward bastardom, because a
John Hodson his refer to as his brother (source)
and while John the son of Henry was dead for several years and third Lord
Hunsdon, he specifically mention that this goes to his children, which in the
context of him referring to the third Lord Hundson has more sense. However there is one thing that really got my
attention.
His will mention two sisters Lawson and one as Veghelman. Meaning those two girls are possible two
additional bastards of his. Though I also wonder if Veghelman an actual name
(:P )
He also married a woman called Dorothy Coke and had five sons (source)
it also interesting to note that if he is indeed his bastard he seem to name
him after a man working under him.
I strongly recommend reading Oxford dictionnary of national biography on
him, but also here a few more links. (His funeral place is rather impressive.)
here some more on his career and life
https://archive.org/stream/cu31924029445180#page/n167/mode/2up http://www.devon.gov.uk/localstudies/78267/407.html&s=lu9hLZGDQBX
http://books.google.ca/books?id=qTA9AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA386&dq=Richard+coke+lord+hunsdon&hl=fr&sa=X&ei=StiGUt7fJqL82wWpjYDAAg&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Richard%20coke%20lord%20hunsdon&f=false
* Notes and Queries seem to have a few discussion on the Carey lineage
available to read google book, so check them out.
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